Curious DK
Nostr Talks
Nostr Talks: Bill Ottman and Mark Harding on building

Nostr Talks: Bill Ottman and Mark Harding on building

We caught up with Bill and Mark to learn how they're thinking about the future of and the principles they focus on while seeking to decentralize the service. is one of the original approaches to building a social networking service that seeks to empower users with more freedom (e.g., free speech, portable identities, etc.). Beginning over 10 years ago they’ve evolved the service to play a role in the modern architecture we’re exploring with Nostr. After Bill’s recent appearance talking about Nostr on Joe Rogan’s podcast we got a chance to dig deeper on the key philosophical and technical principles behind their work and how they think about Nostr. We were also lucky to include Mark Harding who is CTO of Minds.

0:00 Opener

0:42 DK intro to convo

1:34 Minds - philosophy and exploration of nostr and other open source projects

4:04 What’s important when evaluating open source technologies?

4:20 3 Pillars: Sovereign Identities, Interoperability, Portability

6:45 Minds history with various technology approaches

9:42 adapting centralized approaches to decentralized technologies

19:00 why email signup is needed for spam prevention

24:28 will there be “one ring to rule them all”?

28:39 web5, Dorsey

30:27 schema-first approach

32:34 AT-protocol

35:12 fiatjaf’s feat of magic

36:37 a possible Minds fit in the nostr world

38:27 Verified Credentials

42:23 NFTs, token-gated community

44:22 making money on Minds

50:00 Minds business/community funding/advertising

56:30 Some final thoughts on interoperability and portability

57:12 Collaborate with Minds!

Curious DK
Nostr Talks
Nostr is a simple open source messaging protocol. But its potential impact on how we communicate, publish, and share information is profound. It radically reshapes our assumptions about web publishing and opens up new frontiers in free speech - a web without masters. Along the way it explores radical new approaches to product innovation, too. In this podcast I interview people building this future and host weekly news shows to keep you updated on what's happening in the Nostr ecosystem.
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